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Dubai: Goerges d. Wozniacki
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02/24/2012 - 1:35 PM
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Posted by Nadalie |
02/24/2012 at 01:45 PM |
Go Julia and best of success for tomorrow! |
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Posted by Sunny |
02/24/2012 at 01:54 PM |
Going to be a great final tomorrow. But am sure Aggie will win the match, she has got more variety in her game than Caro. Aggie's lobs and drop shots according to me are the best in WTA. Aggie is also good at net. The only thing she lacks is power.
So going to be an interesting match, but I am sure cry-baby Aggie is going to win it |
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Posted by Sunny |
02/24/2012 at 01:56 PM |
Julia Georges exposed Wozniacki's weak forehand in this match, something Ana Ivanovic failed to do in the previous match. Ana was too busy fighting her own demons rather than fight her opponent.
I hope Julia is consistent enough to win tomorrow. Go Julia! |
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Posted by Slice-n-Dice |
02/24/2012 at 01:56 PM |
I've always liked Goerges' game, and it's obvious that she matches up well with Wozniacki. I think we have an interesting match-up for the final, as Radwanska won't be content to be pushed around the court all day long. She'll play superb defense, as she always does, but she'll be seeking those chinks in Goerges armor, unlike Woz, who simply keeps grinding away. I expect it to be a very entertaining final, with plenty of great shot-making and good defensive play, with some inventive play and tempo changes thrown in to break the rhythm.
Too tough to call this one, as Aggie's been playing well now for some time. Her shoulder and calf strapping are beginning to concern me a little, though. Not sure how long she can play with strains before they become tears. I hope she can continue to avoid injury while on the mend. |
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Posted by Tennis India |
02/24/2012 at 01:57 PM |
Unfortunate for Wozniacki !! I hope she doesn't happen to be next Safinas, Jankovics !! |
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Posted by SerenaRulesAll |
02/24/2012 at 02:09 PM |
Changing the pace smartly, showing brilliance at the net, not losing her cool when her serve went AWOL, Julia Goerges reinforced the notion that a well-executed power game with a little off-speed guile thrown in can make Caroline Wozniacki a very frustrated competitor.
Once again, Wozniacki relied on the errors of her opponent to give her the victory. And, truth be told, Caroline did play with a bit more aggression, hitting balls out of the air and and even moving into the court on second serves from Julia. But Goerges, even with all her rushed shots and errors, kept her head together long enough for the win. Her game wasn't clean but it was effective. As the defending champion, Caroline will lose points if not her place in the rankings. |
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Posted by Krisherdown |
02/24/2012 at 02:20 PM |
I was kind of puzzled at how little respect Goerges was getting before the match. How quickly it is forgotten what she did to Wozniacki twice last year - and that was a confident Woz at that point getting pushed around by Julia. |
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Posted by JJ americans are not winning |
02/24/2012 at 02:33 PM |
Well Wozzy isn't Wozzy anymore... Not sure what she is. Julia played strong and really went for the corners and did most of the work.
Hope she does the same to Aggie. |
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Posted by Jigsawwill |
02/24/2012 at 02:47 PM |
This is why Caro will never win a major:
No one is afraid of her.
They want to play her.
She doesn't go for winners
NO WEAPONS
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Posted by Arif |
02/24/2012 at 02:55 PM |
Now a days everyone is winning against Caroline so not a surprise... |
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Posted by latagaw |
02/24/2012 at 03:01 PM |
I hope Goerges wins tomorrow... |
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Posted by tina (Nole No. 5 smells sweet) |
02/24/2012 at 03:02 PM |
Caro had tons of break points that she couldn't convert. Conversely, Julia was able to fight off loads of break points against. A well-deserved win. Break points = big points. Julia won the big points.
I didn't understand the lack of respect for Goerges before the start of the match, either. |
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Posted by Brian |
02/24/2012 at 03:28 PM |
I said it yesterday, Woz will never win a major when you only average about 10 winners a match. At this level, you cannot depend on your opponent to beat them selves. |
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Posted by englishpeter |
02/24/2012 at 03:33 PM |
**oh yes caroline wackybakky blown off court and halfway to abergavenny, never mind she can always get some tips from her world class coach..'daddy, daddy i goofed up, i dont wanna do no more tennis just now,can i have an ice cream... pleeeease'. |
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Posted by mike_brnsn@yahoo.com |
02/24/2012 at 03:48 PM |
The Pusher is getting what is long overdue..a number four ranking and keeps dropping...she got lucky last year..the top girls were out and the rest were making alot of mistakes...but notice when the mistakes stop..she loses time and again..she relys solely on the mistakes of her opponent..hence:4 winners in a match.,,as someone called her appropriately "the golden retreiver" |
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Posted by Del Pony |
02/24/2012 at 03:53 PM |
Julia Georges is Caroline's personal Kryptonite in these main WTA Tour events. This is 3 in a row now for Julia, 2 on clay and 1 on hardcourts. Very impressive from Georges but she needs to translate this excellent form in the regular Tour events into Grand Slam-appropriate play. That match against Radwanska in AO was an embarrassment, and Julia's overall GS record is very poor overall (only 1 4th round appearance, last month, where she got killed by Radwanska).
As for Wozniacki...I said it yesterday, that Wozniacki is not displaying the appropriate aggressive form to win a Major. Looks like it's not enough to win regular Tour events anymore, either. Major alarm bells must be sounding in the Woz camp right now, as this was the kind of "bread-and-butter" event that inflated her ranking to #1 last year. Eight winners in 24 games + a tiebreak is ridiculous. And it's not like she controlled the errors either, as she herself hit 30 UFE's, most of them hideous howlers off of the weaker FH wing.
She should shut up and listen to the Martinas now, IMO. |
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Posted by Ryan |
02/24/2012 at 03:54 PM |
Guys give it a rest. Goerges is to Caro as Nole is to Rafa. So no need to denigrate Miss Sunshine. She will be fine. |
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Posted by Ryan |
02/24/2012 at 04:01 PM |
Btw, the reason I analogize Caro v. Julia to Rafa v. NOle is because at first, like with Nole v Rafa, Caro was winning their encounters then suddenly Julia seemed to have figure Caro out and consistently expose her weakness. |
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Posted by Brian |
02/24/2012 at 04:18 PM |
Julia is hot, she will win tomorrow. |
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Posted by valentin |
02/24/2012 at 04:21 PM |
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE,
Dont ever Compare another tennis player to the uncopareable Djokovic he is just too goood for anyone right now!!!
Please guys. |
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Posted by tina (Nole No. 5 smells sweet) |
02/24/2012 at 04:24 PM |
The most aggressive and impressive play I've ever seen from Wozniacki was against Kuznetsova in last year's Dubai final. I believe she actually posted more winners to errors. It was the match when I thought: Oh, this is what she's capable of. Then I never saw this play from her again. |
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Posted by nyc |
02/24/2012 at 04:54 PM |
Nice match from Julia.
The question for Caro and her camp now is not can she win a major, but can she stay in the top 5 for the rest of the year. |
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Posted by Abraxas |
02/24/2012 at 05:03 PM |
"A stubborn Wozniacki saved a set point snapping a backhand down the line—her first winner of the match"
How can anyone expect to win a match without hitting winners. I think it is great that Wozniacki has a great defensive game but without an offensive one she will never consistently beat the best players. Does she expect every player she faces to eventually implode by herself? That's not going to happen.
@Ryan, Caro has a long way to go before she can be compared to Rafa in any shape or form, and if she keeps on playing like this she should be more concerned about being compared to Safina and Jankovic. |
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Posted by Master Ace |
02/24/2012 at 05:06 PM |
Tina,
Agreed about Caroline after the final in Dubai. She continued that form into Doha until Vera defeated her in the final.
For some reason, Julia should have won more comfortably as her opponent was -20 on W/UFEs while Julia was at -9 being aggressive. Now, Julia will be tested in the final against an undefeated Agnieszka minus the Victoria's matches. |
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Posted by benedick |
02/24/2012 at 05:28 PM |
bye Caro. You need more practice. Defense is great. But dont just rely on defense. The fact you have a great defense, it would be your way to make your shots. where is that?.... |
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Posted by def |
02/24/2012 at 07:52 PM |
Woz's best option is to pose for Playboy...that would be her only way to make the WTA worth watching... |
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Posted by Northernboy |
02/24/2012 at 08:37 PM |
See the thing is I don't even think Wozniacki's defensive game is that great. She plays the ball so safe up the middle of the court, rarely works the lines or angles (something Jankovic did superbly when she was #1). Her shots lack depth (Djokovic, Azarenka) or heavy topspin (Nadal, Stosur).
Georges has such an attractive game, very fun to watch her. |
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Posted by pollypurebred |
02/24/2012 at 09:01 PM |
Heck, Caroline has a long way to go before you could compare her to Nole!
Until her father is totally out of her professional life, things are just going to keep on sliding. (and, until she decides to listen to someone other than her father.) Sometimes, it's difficult to see for yourself what is so plain to everyone else. |
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Posted by manixdk - Caro: is she starting to find her game? |
02/24/2012 at 09:08 PM |
Hat tip to TennisFed:
This is what Piotr Wozniacki had to say during one of the On-Court-Coachings:
Piotr: you aren't here, you aren't there. those framed balls, no 1st serves in - you know why you don't have them? How could they be if you are not thinking what you are doing. You are standing here like a piece of meat that wants to do something but doesn't know what. (showing with his finger) Why didn't you hit that ball? Because you didn't see it.
Caro: I did see it
Piotr: Don't discuss with me now. This is a complete bullshit/rubbish. Now I will tel you what to do: while serving watch the ball, with new balls go lower on your legs, stand on baseline. She is not running, she is playing you high with backhand. And why you are doing? You are not hitting the ball harder. At her second serve you have to cover the ball (umpire saying time) hit it,and you are (showing it to Caro ) here and here, you are nowhere. Understand? you are nowhere. The racket low, hit with spin, close with elbow. Oh and Carolina, did you play backhand down the line? This is really laughable/pathetic.
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And you think they don't know what they need to do. After Piotr told Caro off, she did exactly what he said, and reeled off 2 games in a row, with a lovely forehand winner mixed in. Then, as if to say, see, I can play like that, she retreated.
Piotr knows, Caro just doesn't listen. This is going to take a while. |
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Posted by Steveo |
02/24/2012 at 09:20 PM |
Can't believe CAROLINE lost again!!!!NEEDS TO IMPROVE HER SERVE MORE POWER MORE POINTS!!!!! getting BROKE ON SRRVE WAY TOOO MUCHHHH!!!! |
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Posted by Steveo |
02/24/2012 at 09:23 PM |
Why are so many TENNIS TOURNAMENTS PLAYED MON-FRI FROM 8am to 5pm eastern time ?????? MOST NORMAL PEOPLE HAVE TO WORK AT THAT TIME!!!!!!late notes or WEEKENDS WOULD BETTER!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Steveo |
02/24/2012 at 09:29 PM |
Wish CAROLINE WOULD FIND AWAY TO BEAT THE GEORGES!!!!TIRED OF HER LOSING TO THE SAME PLAYERS ALL THE TIME!!!!!!
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Posted by Ryan |
02/24/2012 at 09:37 PM |
THANK YOU, manixdk - Caro: searching for her game
Piotr is NOT the prob. Caro is just too complacent with her game and somewhat uncomfortable with aggression, but she can still get back the no.1 |
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Posted by Deft Touch |
02/24/2012 at 09:39 PM |
Woz was playing fetch and couldnt keep it going with julia's power. I really hope Julia destroys that whinner tomorrow. Juliehas a great game and can crush the fh. |
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Posted by Miles |
02/24/2012 at 10:25 PM |
Thanks for giving us the transcript of that convo with Piotr.
But that's just where the problem lies: she should not need him to tell her all that on court! She should know all that by herself beforehand. This is the talk that is done off court, before matches, during practice sessions, not during matches.
And the way he talks to her! Demeaning, insulting, haughty, embarrassing. She is losing her precious mental energy just processing all that, fighting to maintain a modicum of pride and composure after being scolded by her FATHER, like a five-year-old, in public. He is reducing her to a child right there and her reaction to that may seem positive (her game improves temporarily), but that's actually just a wounded pride and "doing it for pappy", not a mature, thoughtful reaction (her game goes down eventually when her opponent doesn't self-implode). She plays blindly, reactively, without thinking and problem-solving independently.
And that's why she has trouble winning slams (in additon to other reasons): no coaching allowed in slams. |
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Posted by manixdk - Caro: is she starting to find her game? |
02/24/2012 at 10:33 PM |
Miles
That's just the Eastern European way. She doesn't see it as demeaning at all. She wants to hear the plain unvarnished truth. She's said that many times. She doesn't want to be stroked. It's a cultural thing.
No she shouldn't need it, but she feels she does. And she's the boss. Your Psych 101 doesn't work here, Miles. |
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Posted by 10snut |
02/25/2012 at 12:57 AM |
I love watching Julia G. play..her forehand looks a bit like DelPo when he has time to kill it for a winner...a thing of beauty.
And as the commentators said, Woz hates to have to generate her own power, she prefers to push the ball back, absorbing the heavy hit balls of her opponents (when she can get to them). Julia's strategy of hitting high topspin shots to defuse the Woz tactics were spot on. Hopefully the other women will catch onto this strategy. I feel like Woz's earlier success was due to her just keeping the ball in play and the opponent feels like she wants to end the point, drawing errors. |
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Posted by Miles |
02/25/2012 at 02:05 AM |
"That's just the Eastern European way. She doesn't see it as demeaning at all. She wants to hear the plain unvarnished truth. She's said that many times. She doesn't want to be stroked. It's a cultural thing."
That is so patently untrue and silly. Nobody wants to hear she's just a peace of meat. Culture or her Polishness have nothing to do with it. Plain truth can be conveyed without insults. Piotr Wozniacki is a brute and, more importantly, he has been stalling his daughter's career.
A case in point: the other Pole, Radwanska, broke off with her insulting pops/coach, who loved to tell her after a loss that she is crazy and in need of a psychiatrist. Instead of putting up with such "cultural thing", she showed him the door and just talks to him as her father, but not as her coach anymore:
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/woe-for-wozniacki-as-her-slide-continues-7440567.html
Relevant Radwanska bit:
After working with her father for 17 years, Radwanska has two new coaches in Tomasz Wiktorowski and Borna Bikic. Radwanska, 23, admitted she had had "arguments off the court" with her father, Robert, who claimed after his daughter's defeat to Maria Sharapova at last year's French Open that she needed a psychiatrist. Radwanska said she still speaks on the phone to her father every day. "It's just that he's not here," she said. "It seems good like that." |
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Posted by Nelson Muntz |
02/25/2012 at 02:14 AM |
Tennis India: "I hope she doesn't happen to be next Safinas, Jankovics !!"
In your attempt to insult some players you used a weird grammar.
Besides, use your own folks as an example, like, Sanias Mirzas.
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Posted by Nelson Muntz |
02/25/2012 at 02:21 AM |
manixdk: "That's just the Eastern European way."
When everything was tip-top, they were nice Scandinavian people. When everything goes down the drain they are again nasty "Eastern European" savages.
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Posted by Nelson Muntz |
02/25/2012 at 03:42 AM |
manixdk: "Savages is your word not mine"
There was a subtext that induced my word.
Piotr speaks like a former soccer player, not like a former "Eastern European".
What can you expect from a former soccer player? He is not going to talk like a professor. |
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Posted by Mark |
02/25/2012 at 09:03 AM |
"I hope she doesn't happen to be next Safinas, Jankovics !!"
Caro is better compared to Jankovic then to Safina in the sense that Jankovic is a much more defensive player. Safina, on the other hand, was a very aggressive player who hit winners from all over the place. Her problem was not what Carol and Jankovic suffer from, but was all mental for Dinara. Plus, Dinara made her way to at least 2 or maybe even 3 grand slam finals, where Carol and Jelena only have one.
Out of the 3, I think Safina was definitely the most deserving of the number 1 ranking. |
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Posted by Ebbe Nielsen |
02/25/2012 at 09:40 AM |
Carolines typical answer after not winning: then I must practise even harder. But does it help to train something that doesn't really works anymore? What about doing something new - and practise this. |
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Posted by mike_brnsn@yahoo.com |
02/25/2012 at 09:51 AM |
@ mark...i agree with you completely..Safina had a game and she was talented jankovic comes in second but by far wozniack is the worst of all number ones ever..her game is talentless and its like watching paint dry!!
As for on court coaching it should be banished..its a pollution to the game...tats how woz won last year..people call wozniack a fighter thats laughable..a fighter and true champion does not have their father come to the court six times a match..its pathetic..tennis is a one on one game..imagin..steffi/monica/marina/serena..having their father come down because they were losing? not even thinkable
not to worry shes gonna tumble down the rankings....and alot of players should take notice of Julias game..caroline couldn't handle the top spin..julia did it time and time again and caro crashed..i'm surprised more players haven't tryed it.....as Julia said in press conference "its good for me to see that this player doesn't like my game" translation..she can't beat me with topsin and aggressive play |
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Posted by anil |
02/25/2012 at 10:22 AM |
Caroline,you played very well,but Julie won the match. It was a very interesting match anyway. It was neck to neck fight. Waiting for the final.
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Posted by Lana |
02/25/2012 at 10:28 AM |
I saw the match yesterday and Goerges' technique was almost perfect, in control of the ball at almost all times.
I also watched radvanska yesterday and she was good but did not show the capability ans fierce technique that Goerges exhibited. Let's see what happens today :) |
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Posted by Steveo |
02/25/2012 at 11:59 AM |
Can't believe CAROLINE can't WIN anymore!!!! NEEDS MORE POWER and more Winners on SERVE and her FORHAND!!! STANDS ON THE BASELINE TO MUCH!!! |
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Posted by palleti |
02/25/2012 at 02:02 PM |
Totally disagree with those who saw a great match. To me it was an at times pitiful display of two very different players having an off-day, one lacking proper offensive weapons, the other having almost nothing else.
If Görges had had a reasonable error rate (the serve...!) she would have won easily. If Wozniacki had not acted "like a peace of meat not knowing what to do" she would have been able to defeat an unsure Görges.
Also disagree that Wozniacki should not be a fighter - in my opinion that is exactly what she is, a fighter and a laborer.
But she needs to get her act together, I repeat: Play smarter, not harder. She needs to be able to impose her own game on the enemy, sadly that seems a long way off :-( |
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Posted by Master Ace |
02/25/2012 at 02:39 PM |
"Plus, Dinara made her way to at least 2 or maybe even 3 grand slam finals,"
Correct!
2008 French Open against Ana
2009 Australian Open against Serena
2009 French Open against Svetlana
In the 2009 FO, Dinara dominated the clay season making the finals at Stuttgart(Svetlana), won Rome and Madrid until that dreadful FO final against Svetlana. Also, Dinara was a "giant" killer in 2008 defeating Elena, Svetlana and Maria on her path to the final. |
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Posted by Marine |
02/26/2012 at 04:09 AM |
Goerges is a bad match up for Wozniacki. She needs to figure her out, that's for sure. However, the season has just started and if Caro works on her game and goes back to the style she had when she was at her best more success will come.
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